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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #15 on: September 04, 2013, 08:13:42 PM »
I am tempted to post FF's spot on Washington Lakes.  How can people pay hard earned money to hike into a spot that requires parking at the end of a shady county road, walking along/on railroad tracks (questionably illegal), and walking over a small railroad bridge (definitely illegal) to fish a ditch.  Opps, I think I gave away the spot.   :-X

After Gary informed me of the spot that FF fishes, last year, I checked it out with my friend.  FF was there with a group of 5-or-so clients, all of whom were in their 50's - 60's.  FF always bragged about how willing the Samish kings took eggs, based on what I saw FF using that day, it looked like yarn, corkie, and pencil lead were on the menu for those hungry jighead gobbling chinooks.  If I recall right, the group of people he took out didn't have any waders, and most of the spots required wading around a bit (except for maybe the deeper hole on the river corner),  FF was doing all the fishing, while his guests stood at the bank, more-or-less watching him fish. Every fish out of there was bronze-toned.  There were a ton of kings stacked up in a hole on the river corner I mentioned.  My friend and I had no desire to target them - how is that even "fishing?".  There were a few other guys fishing the various holes along this stretch, all of whom were using corkie and yarn.  We were only there for an hour or so, and quickly moved on for the Skagit.  What an absolute pathetic "fishery."   I felt more embarrassed for the folks that paid to be escorted and guided.
Jesus. That's lame.

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« Reply #16 on: September 04, 2013, 08:37:44 PM »
I am tempted to post FF's spot on Washington Lakes.  How can people pay hard earned money to hike into a spot that requires parking at the end of a shady county road, walking along/on railroad tracks (questionably illegal), and walking over a small railroad bridge (definitely illegal) to fish a ditch.  Opps, I think I gave away the spot.   :-X

After Gary informed me of the spot that FF fishes, last year, I checked it out with my friend.  FF was there with a group of 5-or-so clients, all of whom were in their 50's - 60's.  FF always bragged about how willing the Samish kings took eggs, based on what I saw FF using that day, it looked like yarn, corkie, and pencil lead were on the menu for those hungry jighead gobbling chinooks.  If I recall right, the group of people he took out didn't have any waders, and most of the spots required wading around a bit (except for maybe the deeper hole on the river corner),  FF was doing all the fishing, while his guests stood at the bank, more-or-less watching him fish. Every fish out of there was bronze-toned.  There were a ton of kings stacked up in a hole on the river corner I mentioned.  My friend and I had no desire to target them - how is that even "fishing?".  There were a few other guys fishing the various holes along this stretch, all of whom were using corkie and yarn.  We were only there for an hour or so, and quickly moved on for the Skagit.  What an absolute pathetic "fishery."   I felt more embarrassed for the folks that paid to be escorted and guided.
Jesus. That's lame.

I also forgot to mention another detail:  So I was wading around the river trying to see what was around, above the "corner hole", and I came across him with his back turned to this spot he was wading in, facing a bunch of overgrown vegetation/ivy along the bank.  His clients were watching from afar at FF on the edge of the bank about 50 feet away.  I watched in amazement at the blatant flossing/snagging - Holding the "loose line" in his left hand and ripping it with his hand sideways through this hole.   

Part of me felt embarrassed for FF, as well.  I think if people knew or see how he fishes, it would be something of an ego crush to his abilities as a "fisherman."  I have also seen him fish the hole below the "island" on Saxon Rd. with his buddies - All I will say is that his methodology for catching those cohos is not any better. I originally didn't feel like posting all of this until now, since he's no longer on this site... Not to mention, I've had a whee too much of that Kirkland Signature 7 year aged Bourbon.  I highly recommend it by the way.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2013, 08:42:18 PM by Jborrell67 »
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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #17 on: September 04, 2013, 09:58:20 PM »
my only catch on the samish(non snagger here. pro whiskey drinker) was a trophy bullhead despite my many dollars and hours spent last octoberish. Witnessed an 8 year old kid and a 30 year old dude snag the same fish at the same time. head and tail.
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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2013, 10:26:06 PM »
Witnessed an 8 year old kid and a 30 year old dude snag the same fish at the same time. head and tail.

That's definitely an Oscar worthy performance. 

That fish must have gone absolutely mittens over those tasty jigheads, it clearly rolled around in the mud in absolute delight over the prospect of those little delicious lead morsels entering its weary mouth. 
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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #19 on: September 05, 2013, 09:51:36 PM »
jborrell67- thats great.  glad you got into the spot.  for the rest of you that i promised directions into the famed "secret hole", i will get it out soon.  recovering from computer problems.  FF talks a big game, but he cant back it up most places.  i have seen him commit some really bad fish-related things, which is why i dont feel bad for showing any of you how to get into his spots.  he moved his operation down about 200 yards from last year, and theres a better place to park.  FF parks at a farm i think, to really drive home the secretness of his honey hole.  those poor bastards who go with him
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« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2013, 10:53:12 PM »
jborrell67- thats great.  glad you got into the spot.  for the rest of you that i promised directions into the famed "secret hole", i will get it out soon.  recovering from computer problems.  FF talks a big game, but he cant back it up most places.  i have seen him commit some really bad fish-related things, which is why i dont feel bad for showing any of you how to get into his spots.  he moved his operation down about 200 yards from last year, and theres a better place to park.  FF parks at a farm i think, to really drive home the secretness of his honey hole.  those poor bastards who go with him

But he's fishing the same spot on the Samish, correct?  He just chooses not to park at the end of the country road with everyone else?
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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2013, 02:40:48 PM »
WDFW put up no parking signs so you have to go to the end of the road now.  I saw a guy wading the river down there a few years ago and he was fishing with a club held high over his head looking in the water.

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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2013, 03:07:37 PM »
jborrell67- thats great.  glad you got into the spot.  for the rest of you that i promised directions into the famed "secret hole", i will get it out soon.  recovering from computer problems.  FF talks a big game, but he cant back it up most places.  i have seen him commit some really bad fish-related things, which is why i dont feel bad for showing any of you how to get into his spots.  he moved his operation down about 200 yards from last year, and theres a better place to park.  FF parks at a farm i think, to really drive home the secretness of his honey hole.  those poor bastards who go with him

But he's fishing the same spot on the Samish, correct?  He just chooses not to park at the end of the country road with everyone else?
yes, pretty much.  and snowman is right about the other parking area also.  you can park at either place, but one is a shorter walk. 
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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2013, 03:39:32 PM »


Kill the Samish River with fire!
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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2013, 05:12:33 PM »
So in the face of all this idiocy, they just extended the snag season:

Samish River salmon fishery

extended with warning to anglers

 

OLYMPIA – With the peak of the Samish River chinook salmon run fast approaching, state fishery managers have agreed to extend the Skagit County fishery from Sept. 9 through Nov. 30.

 

The strong run of 47,000 hatchery-raised chinook salmon expected to return to the river this year should have made that decision easy, said Annette Hoffmann, regional fish manager for the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW).

 

A tougher assessment was whether anglers fishing the river are heeding the department’s warnings about illegal snagging, trespassing on private property, littering and other unacceptable behavior, Hoffmann said. Those issues have been a problem for a number of years, she said.

 

In response, WDFW made the second half of the Samish River salmon season subject to changes in anglers’ behavior.

 

“We have seen greater compliance in some areas, but there’s still room for improvement,” Hoffmann said about this year’s fishery. “We don’t want to punish anglers who act responsibly and follow the rules, but the length of this season still depends on our ability to maintain an orderly fishery.”

 

WDFW Enforcement Captain Mike Hobbs said enforcement officers will continue to patrol the area as long as the fishery remains open.

 

“We expect anglers on any river, not just the Samish, to respect the fishing rules, landowners and other anglers on our state’s waterways,” Hobbs said.

 

In another effort to reach anglers, the department produced a four-minute video – which has received more than 1,300 views – outlining the issues on the Samish and explaining how to catch chinook salmon legally and effectively. It is available at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwGiaKCVHHE.

The daily limit on the Samish is two salmon per day, which may only be retained if they are legally hooked in the mouth. A night closure is in effect, and only one single-point hook is allowed.

 

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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2013, 06:45:15 PM »
So in the face of all this idiocy, they just extended the snag season:

Samish River salmon fishery

extended with warning to anglers....

 

Wonderful. This will give us an extension to inform the populace and masses of some really great spots on the Samish.  What other great spots can we share?

« Last Edit: September 06, 2013, 07:21:05 PM by Jborrell67 »
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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2013, 09:37:54 PM »
Ha! True that. Maybe we should organize a confab one of these days. Take back the Samish!

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« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2013, 09:55:07 PM »
Why don't they just make the system a catch and release only? Fishing is fun and eating your catch is tops but if the problem of snagging is so prevalent and it seems that only a 100% of the folks snagging are only there harvesting fish...a catch and release would be a pretty good way to thin out harvesters and keep the anglers happy still. Do you guys agree?

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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2013, 10:13:18 PM »
Why don't they just make the system a catch and release only? Fishing is fun and eating your catch is tops but if the problem of snagging is so prevalent and it seems that only a 100% of the folks snagging are only there harvesting fish...a catch and release would be a pretty good way to thin out harvesters and keep the anglers happy still. Do you guys agree?

I'm not sure.  I was thinking they should make it Fly Fishing only - which would be a rather interesting idea (kind of like the North Fork Stilly for summer steel).  But then I realized, in reality, this is a very bad idea, since you would have people "Fly flossing".  The bobber idea sounded good on paper... and then here came "bobber-flossing".  It's like an arms race, WDFW vs. Samish Snagger. 

The catch and release idea is not necessarily a bad idea on paper.  But I think people would still find a way to abuse the system.  There isn't much hope for the Samish.  They might have better luck just closing it down. If you want a Samish king, target them in the salt.  Let's face it. The fishery only exists for the netters in Samish Bay. 

However, I think the Samish does have one redeeming quality in the sense that it's a "magnet" that keeps the neanderthal-types off the real fisheries, which is nice.  Just like how Whatcom Creek keeps the chum snaggers off the Nooksack.  If you talk to the snaggers at Whatcom Creek (not that I really suggest doing so), quite a few of them will tell you that Whatcom Creek is all they know, they've never tried to fish the Nooksack/Skagit.  Even if they did try to fish a legit river, they would be completely lost - their techniques would fail them, unless they were at the Cascade or South Fork Nooksack.   So, yes, The Samish has that going for itself.   
« Last Edit: September 06, 2013, 10:19:51 PM by Jborrell67 »
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Re: Samish River 2013
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2013, 06:23:42 AM »
when fishing Samish bay, where do most people launch from? what is the preferred method of fishing (mooching, trolling spoons or plugs)? any help would be great.

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